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Hi! Hopefully you have found a solution to this issue by now.

The first thing I wanna say is definitely give it time and keep practicing. I also had this exact same kind of frustration when I first started out. This is a really crude analogy, but think about your brain or "abilities" as a radio, and you're someone who only just vaguely found out what a radio is and how to use it. It's gonna take some time to figure out how to use all the nobs and where to point the antenna and whatever. If you're still hearing static, that doesn't necessarily mean your radio is broken (but like, check the batteries and make sure there isn't any damage), it might just mean you're not yet tuning quite right. Everyone has this learning curve. Those deities might not be calling quite yet because they know their call might not be received or their signal could get all jumbled and produce the wrong message. You get it.

I also relate to the faith crisis (I honestly think everyone does).

This affected me the greatest when I was first getting into my practice with Archangel Jophiel. The thing that I've always found interesting about heavenly angels in my experience, is that they don't always answer. I had far more failed attempts with Jophiel than successful ones (and his rituals took a lot longer to do so when it failed it was a massive bummer). Angel work specifically requires immense faith and grace, which is why I think I was lead to start there before moving on to other spirits. Jophiel taught me the discipline of faith.

I wouldn't say I was ever really atheistic, even when I wasn't sure, I was always something closer to agnostic. When I first started working with Jophiel, my fear was less that he wasn't real, and more so that I may just be insane. "All in my head." I got into this strange dynamic of denying any experience I had, but desperately needing to "reprove" to myself that it didn't exist. I would do rituals and cleansing for days, have many failed attempts at communication and conclude that it must have all been a fluke. Then, if Jophiel did respond, I would fall into denial. If nothing is real, what am I seeing? If everything is real, why doesn't he always respond? It didn't really matter what the truth was either way, I wouldn't accept it, I was too scared.

I remember having a very frustrated conversation with Jophiel one time while I was trying to do a ritual in the bath. I was essentially screaming at God, asking for a straight forward answer. If this is real, show me now. If this is fake, then nothing will happen and I will know right now. Jophiel, if you are there, this is your last chance.

And as I was laying there I altogether got the very strong message, "It doesn't matter, and you will never know until you know."

This only really crystalized as a concept in my mind when I became devoted to Lord Lucifer. I wasn't really "devoted" to Jophiel- never really made him an altar. There weren't really daily devotional acts I was doing for him. When I became Patroned by Lucifer that same question of faith popped up, what if Lucifer isn't even real?

I mean, he's technically a myth, he isn't even really in the bible- it's a translation error, his connection to the devil is blurry in terms of biblical cannon. His association with the Roman and Greek, even Ugaritic deities is speculative. Lucifer could very well not even be a real spirit for all I know. So why even have an altar, why even continue to pray?

Well, I kinda just like to do it.

There was something about your deity that called to you, you were inspired by or appreciated some aspect of them. For me, that was rebellion, illumination, self deification etc, Lucifer stuff. If your guy is Dionysus it might be wildness and ecstasy and theatre, etc. Aside from the spiritual mechanics or benefits of worship, there are also just some very service level ones that I personally just like.

Regardless of if Lucifer is or isn't real, thinking about self sovereignty and authenticity every day genuinely has just improved my self confidence in general. Asides from getting results from rituals, it just helps to speak your goals and intentions out loud. Worshipping a spirit that embodies freedom is ... freeing.

I have found a lot of personal comfort in the idea that both possibilities are good. It will actually strengthen your discernment because you will be able to comfortably say when it isn't them. Getting a response is awesome, but not getting a clear response is also okay. When you weigh the possibilities and see that it actually could be them, your faith strengthens.

Would you still worship your god if they weren't real? I know a lot of Christians that wouldn't. I know a lot of devotees of angels that would, simply because they want to maintain that practice of cleanliness (hats off to you because that shit is hard)

In terms of actually trusting your deities, I still struggle with it and Lucifer scolds me for it often. I think that it is human nature to doubt and that's okay. There's a sort of discipline to skepticism and there's also a discipline to faith. Reserving at least a little room for skepticism at all times, and also reserving room for faith even when it seems like you aren't getting answers- and sometimes silence is an answer.

Idk how much development you've had on your path since you asked this (I'm so sorry). There is always the possibility that you're just not vibing or some other deity specific thing that I don't know about. Hope you figured it out. Idek if I answered your question. xoxo

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Hi! Thank you!

You've probably already dealt with this seeing as to how you sent this a year ago lol.

In terms of practical, "entry-level" methods to connect with Lucifer, you should focus primarily on safety, simplicity, and consistency.

The most obvious first step is research. Before attempting direct communication, you should dedicate time to researching Luciferian philosophy and lore so you can understand the energy you are engaging with.

During your first attempt at communication, set a clear intention, know why you are calling him (to introduce yourself," to seek guidance/knowledge, etc.)

Especially when you're first starting out, you're going to want to perform a simple cleansing/banishing ritual (a simple warding prayer, burning cleansing herbs, protective circle, the LBRP or similar rituals) before and after the work to clear the space and ground yourself.

Meditating on and learning Lucifer's Enn is where many Demonolaters start. The most common one for Lucifer is: "Renich Tasa Uberaca Biasa Icar, Lucifer." Light a black or white candle , focus on the flame, and chant the Enn rhythmically until you feel a shift in the atmosphere or your state of mind. You can also meditate on his sigils while focusing on his principles- ask a simple, clear question and wait for an answer in the form of thoughts, visions, or emotions. Or use a divination tool like tarot if you're not yet experienced with clair-audience.

Lucifer is associated with the pursuit of knowledge, light, and freedom, so studying and learning about new things in general is a great devotional act to him. You can also vow to complete a small, challenging project.

In terms of whether you should or shouldn't mix altar spaces, I would say that is totally up to your discretion. While the spirits come from diverse origins, that does not inherently make them incompatible. In a personal practice, the practitioner's intention and respect are the most important factors.

Since the altars must be close due to a lack of space, you could use boundaries and distinct symbols to prevent energetic "bleed" or confusion. You could use separate colors, fabrics, small boxes or markings to define each area for each deity. You could use shelves or tiered risers to give each entity a dedicated level. Use dedicated candle holders, chalices, or dishes for offerings that are only ever used for that deity.

I myself have multiple deity altars very close together (Hermes, Cerberus, Leviathan), sometimes sharing the same shelf. There hasn't been any real conflicts so long as each deity has their own space. The intention is what separates the space, not the physical distance.

The entities you're working with are actually pretty compatible in principle, which can make having a shared altar space a lot more peaceful. The shared theme across all five entities is illumination, knowledge, and guidance, so their close proximity may be encouraged.

It is unlikely that you will be working with all of these energies all the time all at once, you will likely go in phases. So when giving an offering or prayer, be extremely specific about which entity you are addressing at that time. If you are addressing multiple, be sure to call each of them out by name.

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